Are dead note and palm muting same??

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Originally Posted by DLM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_note

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_mute

Thus, dead notes can be played with palm muting! :)

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yes, but palm muting doesn't make a dead note! That is, dead or palmed depends upon how much pressure you use and then there are other ways to make a dead note ( fretting hand damping in partic).

If you look at the notion section in that wiki entry on palm muting it still gives note values eg E F F# G etc ( albeit in tab form) to the palm muted notes - dead notes don't have a value in this way, they are just marked as x.

When you cut the notes short you are playing 'stacato'

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Originally Posted by welly_59

When you cut the notes short you are playing 'stacato'

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Lol you're right, no idea idea how I didnt remember that.

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Originally Posted by erictheweary

yes, but palm muting doesn't make a dead note! That is, dead or palmed depends upon how much pressure you use and then there are other ways to make a dead note ( fretting hand damping in partic).

If you look at the notion section in that wiki entry on palm muting it still gives note values eg E F F# G etc ( albeit in tab form) to the palm muted notes - dead notes don't have a value in this way, they are just marked as x.

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Oops, sorry, I know that, my language was just unclear. I've edited my original post to say what I meant: "dead notes can be played in combination with palm muting"

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palm mute - rest palm gently near bridge. mute strings - fretting fingers lightly touching strings to make a clicking noise. simples

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Originally Posted by thereformant

to me a dead note is left hand muting and makes a "click" sound, so you rest your left hand across the strings without fretting anything and strike the string, whereas palm muting is a right hand technique that produces a muted note.

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That's the way I look at it. Though, for correctness I'd describe a dead-note as a fretting hand technique as opposed to a left hand one, and similarly; palm muting as a picking hand technique<,/pedantry>

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Originally Posted by thereformant

I think some of the other guys are talking about when you sund a note normally and then release the pressure on your picking hand to cut the note short. Note sure what that's called though.

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Staccato?

thanks for all the infos guyz.. It makes a lot of sense now.. I used to play dead note (i.e. muting with left hand) thinking that it is palm muting.. I would always get frustrated when it didn't sound same like in the song.. I would also wonder why it was called palm muting.. Now it all makes sense...

Just to further cloud the water, there is a technique used in trad/folky playing called "dead thumb" playing. It's heard a lot in country blues where you want a driving/thudding alternate bass that doesn't ring out too much and drown the treble strings out.
Link for anyone interested from the magnificent Mr Delta Blues Tips: Dead Thumb and Finger Technique