So.....buffers??

[smudge_lad]

After my last thread about my tone loss, I've ditched the Vox Wah, and in the post I've got a CAE Wah (always wanted one anyway!)

But I think I may want to try a buffer out as well. Cany anyone suggest a decent one, not too pricey and not to big?? Not much space left on my board, even though I'm planning on getting rid of one or two pedals

Cheers

Keir

[gatheredinsong]

There are a few around based on the Klon buffer, such as the Fredric Effects one here - http://www.fredric.co.uk/klon-buffer-clone. A Mad Bean one is available as well I believe. Or you could go with something like the MI Audio Boost and Buff if you want extra functionality - http://www.musicradar.com/gear/all/g...55/description

Can't say i've any personal experience of any though so i'm sure others can offer better input.

[timmyo]

teeny tiny : http://this1smyne.com/shop/mb-mini-buffer/

[ICBM]

After my last thread about my tone loss, I've ditched the Vox Wah, and in the post I've got a CAE Wah (always wanted one anyway!)

But I think I may want to try a buffer out as well.

You already have a buffer on your board - in the Danelectro. The only question is whether there is enough tone suck before that to make another one at the start of the chain (after the CAE wah, which ideally should come before the buffer) necessary.

[smudge_lad]

I'll maybe try moving the EQ then....the only reason it's at the end, is because it's always on and up behind the M5 where I don't really need to try and get my foot to during a gig

[Si.]

After some searching I think I've identified that my MXR Microamp is buffered..

I used to use a TU2 tuner but replaced it with a Pollytune mini, it appears the TU2 is buffered and the Pollytune isn't. the MXR is 3rd in line (guitar - Wah - Polytune - MXR) so am i still getting the benefit with it being 3rd?

[ICBM]

I'll maybe try moving the EQ then....the only reason it's at the end, is because it's always on and up behind the M5 where I don't really need to try and get my foot to during a gig

Don't move it unless you need to. You only need a buffer at the front if effects are sucking tone. If all the effects before the buffered pedal are true bypass, you probably don't need to move the buffer.

After some searching I think I've identified that my MXR Microamp is buffered.

No, it's not - unless you leave it on all the time. Worse, it's 'half' bypass, although it does have a very high input impedance so it isn't much of a tone-sucker.

I used to use a TU2 tuner but replaced it with a Pollytune mini, it appears the TU2 is buffered and the Pollytune isn't. the MXR is 3rd in line (guitar - Wah - Polytune - MXR) so am i still getting the benefit with it being 3rd?

If you have no other pedals on the board, you have no buffering at all when all pedals are off.

[Si.]

Hmm.. I need a re-think then.. only other pedals (that are in the chain and not in a looper) are a TS9, Small Stone, and HT-DRIVE

[smudge_lad]

Don't move it unless you need to. You only need a buffer at the front if effects are sucking tone. If all the effects before the buffered pedal are true bypass, you probably don't need to move the buffer.

I will wait and see how I get on with the new wah. The other reasoning behind the EQ being at the end, was so it was acting like the amp's EQ which I don't have.

I was mucking around the other night, took all my board to pieces and ran each pedal individually through my TBP looper, bringing them in and out of the loop while playing, and I honestly couldn't hear any of them making much/any difference. However, when I took the looper out, and went straight into my amp, I noticed a difference - is it possible that the looper is faulty?

[ICBM]

Hmm.. I need a re-think then.. only other pedals (that are in the chain and not in a looper) are a TS9, Small Stone, and HT-DRIVE

In that case you're probably fine - the TS and the HT are both buffered.

Don't over-think this - if you can't hear any tone suck, don't worry about it. If you can, you may only need to re-order your pedals (if that's possible from a sonic point of view).

I was mucking around the other night, took all my board to pieces and ran each pedal individually through my TBP looper, bringing them in and out of the loop while playing, and I honestly couldn't hear any of them making much/any difference. However, when I took the looper out, and went straight into my amp, I noticed a difference - is it possible that the looper is faulty?

Not likely. What you're hearing there is the effect of two cables added together, compared to one. This is the major disadvantage (in sound terms) of true bypass.

If you want to check that, use the shortest possible patch cable from the looper to the amp, and compare again.