Quick Tube Screamer "vs" Bad Monkey question..

[Nick.Botfield]

Metal chuggery on a TS type pedal? Uh?? All the more confusing with your ending words!

as sensible sounding as which Metal distortion pedal for teh best jazz tone?

Dual Rectifier / 5150 + TS = Very often used metal tone.

The mid hump / bass cutoff of a TS focuses the potentially splodgy nature of a highly distorted metal amp.

[Sir Axeman]

Which is best for focussing metal chuggery? None of this pushing a valve amp into slightly more distortion nonsense.

Dual Rectifier / 5150 + TS = Very often used metal tone.

The mid hump / bass cutoff of a TS focuses the potentially splodgy nature of a highly distorted metal amp.

Hello??

[RocknRollDave]

I'd totally agree with this...I'm a huge fan of the mk 1 Dano Coolcat Drives - I've got the TOD and the Overdrive (gold n silver wuns) and I love 'em both. But the TOD is absolutely my fave! Not oodles of gain, but again that classic TS middy rich tone.

BIG fan of the Dano TOD here too. Excellent pedal.

Just taken delivery of a Dano Drive too - V2 this time. Not had chance to use it but two gigs this weekend so watch this space

[Nick.Botfield]

Hello??

It's not really a case of adding more distortion (it might do a little bit, but that's not the main point), it's more a case of getting rid of flappy frequencies. Have you never done it? It sounds great.

[Sir Axeman]

Yeah i've done it loads and your right but your pushing the amps front end (preamp) to achieve this! So hence my at what you said previously!

[ICBM]

Metal chuggery on a TS type pedal? Uh?? All the more confusing with your ending words!

as sensible sounding as which Metal distortion pedal for teh best jazz tone?

I'm pretty sure one of the well-known jazz guys (can't remember which one, sorry, not big on jazz guitar post-Django really) uses something like a Boss HM-2. Knowing the kind of sound "non traditional" jazz guys seem to go for, probably into a full-range amp as well .

[TheThingThatShouldNotBe]

Yeah i've done it loads and your right but your pushing the amps front end (preamp) to achieve this! So hence my at what you said previously!

It depends on how the output level control in conjuction with the other controls are set on the TS

[ICBM]

I think most of the metal guys will be using them with the drive up a fair way and the level set to unity, or not much more than. That's how it works best with my SD-1 and Trem-o-verb, anyway - although even when the pedal is set to unity with the amp on the clean channel, it still gives a noticeable volume boost on the dirty channel - presumably due to focusing the tone more into the mids.

Setting it as a slightly dirty boost with the level up a long way doesn't work well, it saturates the amp too much and sounds harsh and muddy. Totally different from running one into a cranked low-gain amp.

[Bidley]

I think most of the metal guys will be using them with the drive up a fair way and the level set to unity, or not much more than. That's how it works best with my SD-1 and Trem-o-verb, anyway - although even when the pedal is set to unity with the amp on the clean channel, it still gives a noticeable volume boost on the dirty channel - presumably due to focusing the tone more into the mids.

Setting it as a slightly dirty boost with the level up a long way doesn't work well, it saturates the amp too much and sounds harsh and muddy. Totally different from running one into a cranked low-gain amp.

I use mine to push my Carvin - I have the gain on just a touch and the volume maxed. I'm a Metal guy

I do have the amp gain backed off though, or it does get a bit muddy. But I use the TS9 to stop the flubby frequencies, like Nick suggested.

[ICBM]

Interesting!

Actually I think this perfectly illustrates why the TS is such a (possibly the most) classic pedal circuit - it can do many different things depending on what amp you use, how you set both of them, and what you want it for.

The funny thing is that the one that sounds least good to me is the pedal into a clean amp .