Shit that boils your piss

[Sporky_McGuffin]

I'll admit to this, it's a faff to put my handbrake on - usually by the time it's on the lights have turned to green.

I don't mind if it's a couple of seconds, but when you're just sitting there on the foot brake it's dashed inconsiderate to whoever is behind you. Not to mention that if your brakes are hot from use you risk warping the disks if you keep them clamped on one section.

[limbicsystem]

People...

...still...

[Bidley]

People who, when it's dark, don't use the handbrake when stopped at traffic lights and instead sit on the footbrake, dazzling those behind them. Sadly they now seem to be a significant majority.

I must admit this doesn't really bother me. Putting my handbrake on every time I stop at traffic lights bothers me a lot more, although if I'm waiting for a little while I'll stick the handbrake on.

[monquixote]

I must admit this doesn't really bother me. Putting my handbrake on every time I stop at traffic lights bothers me a lot more, although if I'm waiting for a little while I'll stick the handbrake on.

If it's just few seconds you can just balance it on the clutch can't you

[musophilr]

People who, when it's raining, slightly dull, or getting on the edge of dusk, use headlights. Under such conditions you DON'T need headlights to see by, you only need a small light to draw attention to your presence if you've got a road- or hedge-coloured car. Sidelights will do. Anything brighter, and I'm not going to see the pushbike or moped whose glow-worm is obliterated by your over-the-top dazzle-display, or even worse I'll not see the pedestrian you've just driven past.

[Bidley]

If it's just few seconds you can just balance it on the clutch can't you

Yep, and for 5-10 seconds I use the footbrake. Much longer than that and the handbrake gets used.

[Bidley]

People who, when it's raining, slightly dull, or getting on the edge of dusk, use headlights. Under such conditions you DON'T need headlights to see by, you only need a small light to draw attention to your presence if you've got a road- or hedge-coloured car. Sidelights will do. Anything brighter, and I'm not going to see the pushbike or moped whose glow-worm is obliterated by your over-the-top dazzle-display, or even worse I'll not see the pedestrian you've just driven past.

Don't Volvos always have their headlights on by design?

[Grunfeld.]

I don't find the handbrake thing a hassle -- always seems safer to use it in case some muppet shunts you up the arse (which would cause you to release the footbrake) and pushes you out into the path of a 44 tonner. I've no idea if that scenario is plausible but it plays through my mind on occasions.

What I do find a hassle though are those f*cking blister packs made of indestructible plastic. Just been wrestling with one.

[Bidley]

What I do find a hassle though are those f*cking blister packs made of indestructible plastic. Just been wrestling with one.

Oh yes, like the kind memory cards or earphones come in. I end up using a Stanley and very nearly slicing the contents in half.

[BlindLemonAde]

People who, when it's dark, don't use the handbrake when stopped at traffic lights and instead sit on the footbrake, dazzling those behind them. Sadly they now seem to be a significant majority.

I'll sit on the footbrake until the car behind has come to a stop, in the hope that the bright lights will distract the dozy twat from his mobile / satnav / email, and he/she'll notice that the traffic has stopped. Then I put the handbrake on.

Of course, motorcycles have no choice but to hold the brakes on (on a slope), as there is no "handbrake," and both front and rear brake levers operate the brake light. I guess if you were a trials rider, you could balance it on the clutch, feet-up, but it would get tiring...