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  1. #1
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    Default Backtracks rig problems and inquiry.

    Hey guys, I've heard good things about this site and decided to try and pick your knowledge here for the first time.

    First, my setup:

    My band uses a crude-but-effective backtracks rig when we play live in lieu of having an actual keyboardist (whom we lost a while back.) I'm no expert in it, but I use Reason to map out all the keyboard, then pan it hard right while I pan a click hard left. I put this on an iPod, then use a headphone splitter, sending the click to our drummer via a very simple mixer, and sending the backtracks to an DI box, then, ultimately, to the board.

    Now, the problem I have is this: despite exporting them at basically max volume, the keys are never loud enough without turning the gain on the board up a bit, which can sometimes cause some hissing, and often bitching from the sound guy. I suspect this is probably due to the fact that I'm splitting the audio. If so, is there a way around this volume loss? Using a higher quality cable perhaps, or using some kind of software that maxes out of the volume of an mp3/wave? Maybe it's a problem with Reason (I use 4.0)?

    As far as the inquiry goes: Eventually, I'd like a less ghetto setup, with the ability to actually send the keyboard stereo while still sending a click to the drummer. What is the easiest way to accomplish this? I've heard it's easy if you have multiple sound cards, but I'm using a 4-year-old laptop that only has the one. Would an external, USB soundcard be what i'm looking of here (or does such a thing even exist in a form that's worth a damn?)

    Any help would be beyond appreciated!

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    Hi Captaininternet!

    Welcome to the forums! I play in three bands and each band uses track. We have slightly different setups live, both similar to what you have. One band runs minidisc, one band runs a rackmount mp3 player.

    The rackmount MP3 player is awesome as its XLR out. The minidisc is phono out which we then convert to jack and chuck it into a D.I. Box to convert it to XLR. I'd definitely try a D.I. box, as it takes your unbalanced signal and converts it to a balanced signal (reduce noise and alike).

    With regards to the soundcard, you'd want a multi out external card. I've ran this setup before, and I used my profire 2626 with my laptop running Cubase 5. I subgrouped instrumentsand sent each one to a different out, giving FOH complete control over the mix (sometimes a good thing, sometimes not.....)

    Hope this helps!

    Cheers

    Paul

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    Ah, a rackmount MP3 player; that sounds pretty interesting; I'll have to check that out!

    As far as the volume issue I have goes, any ideas?

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    Yeah its good. We use the this http://www.dv247.com/dj-equipment/co...-player--49388

    Its easy to use and as solid as a rock.

    As for the volume, have you tried running into a D.I. box, should help reduce the noise, allowing you to pump the gain up a bit.

    Cheers

    Paul

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