Wow, this is a great help! Luckily, I have many of those albums, just not listened to them as much as they deserved!
I've got my caged stuff down. I don't really do theory, but know some modal stuff as a byproduct of learning metal... So that shouldn't be an issue. But getting used to odd time sigs and swung rhythms could take some time. Phrasing will take some work! Is there a good book that could introduce a couple of standards, in the original keys, so I could play along with a backing track recorded on a digital piano?
Something I have noticed is the chords seem to have a melody in them, so although they sound complex, they sound like a melody with a bunch of other notes to go with it. Lots of fourths, by the sound of it!
Be warned, it's addictive stuff. If you like the chords, melody and bassline approach played at the same time one of the best modern exponents is Martin Taylor. Well, I say modern he's the same age as me (as is Joe Satriani oddly enough) but you get my drift.
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+1 for Martin - one of the best in the world and he's an Essex man.
Have a look at http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showthread.php?t=15680, also www.jazzguitar.be. Chris Standring is good too, http://www.playjazzguitar.com/.
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
Gandhi
Wow, Martin is good! It'll take me time to work out how to start I think. I thought, AH, I like stella by starlight, I'll look for that. None of them sound remotely similar! Even down to finding the chords, they seem to be different voicings in different keys with bizarre improvised melodies... I think I need to learn about chordal stuff, record some backing tracks, then improvise to see what works.
Yeah but at least I've got to this age.....:-)yep, you're old
I met Martin Taylor once and we were chatting about favourite guitar solos. Mine's actually the one in Midnight at the Oasis, the Maria Muldaur one. I hesitated to say it 'cos it's not would you would call jazz but I mentioned it and his eyes lit up, he said it was his favourite too. I thought he was just being kind but his next album had that very toon on it.
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Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia.
I've 100 percent settled on learning autumn leaves first. It has a memorable melody, and there are two versions I LOVE. One is Chet Atkins (of course), like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao1VO...eature=related
That man just keeps that bassline so perfectly mechanical...
The other is a more laid back style, which I found by mistake, but probably suits my playstyle a little better. Anyone wanna lend me an es175? :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxbiCPheq9U
I also want to try and move it up the neck a bit (what? I got a 24 fret shred guitar, might as well :P ) so it'll be interesting to see how my guitar takes complex voicings on the higher frets...
Wish me luck! I've worked out 4 bars so far... :P
Kurt Rosenwinkel is essential listening for a taste of a modern jazz player.
The conductor said I could get my bookbag and run around the hallway with it.
Chet is doing it flamenco style. Ryan Stewart (there is a top guitarist out there called Stuart Ryan BTW) is a big fella with a light trad touch. Saw Kurt at Pizza Express coupla years back - takes a bit of getting into.
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
Gandhi
Even though the phrase Jazz is used to describe a style of music, it actually encompasses many styles of music. It's similar to the way the term "Rock" gets used to describe many distinct forms. You might want to look into each individual style to get a sense of the different forms Jazz can take to see if any are particularly appealing to you.
For the Swing era of Jazz, you could try Benny Goodman, Chick Webb, and Count Basie.
For the Bebop era you could check out Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker.
For Cool Jazz there's Dave Brubeck.
For the Modal Jazz era, there's Kind of Blue by Miles Davis and A Love Supreme by John Coltrane.
It you want to check out the Free Jazz stuff you could look into Ornette Coleman.
As a guitarist, you might also want to check out Charlie Christian. I believe he was one of the first electric guitar players to develop a style of jazz playing for guitar by basing his leads on the style he heard from horn players.
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