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    Quote Originally Posted by paultheoneyoulove View Post
    Finally, I thought the HT5 was all valve? Yeah, it has a solid state rectifier, but there are very few amps nowadays that use a valve one.

    Check out the tubemeister 18 combo ;-)
    No, the ht5 has a bunch of op-amp gain stages, clipping diodes and a transistor-based PI. I'm certainly not calling it "not all-valve" because of the rectifier. I don't care less about the rectifier, I agree that amps with an SS rectifier are still "all-tube".

    I have strong suspicions the tubemeister isn't all-tube either, but i'll reserve judgement until I've seen a schematic.
    Quote Originally Posted by digitalscream View Post
    I'd have a long, hard look at the Jet City JCA2212 combo - two channels, does high gain very well and it's pretty light. While it's a 20W amp, they do sound great at low volumes (and they're very controllable). I have the head version, and I can quite easily get great tones out of it at bedroom volume through a 2x12". Not only that, but I can easily play gigs with it too

    EDIT: Forgot the link:

    http://www.thomann.de/gb/jet_city_am...itar_combo.htm

    £250...bargain!
    good call, if it's anythign like my 50 watt head. not much in the way of cleans, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mc View Post
    No, the ht5 has a bunch of op-amp gain stages, clipping diodes and a transistor-based PI. I'm certainly not calling it "not all-valve" because of the rectifier. I don't care less about the rectifier, I agree that amps with an SS rectifier are still "all-tube".

    I have strong suspicions the tubemeister isn't all-tube either, but i'll reserve judgement until I've seen a schematic.
    Ahh I see what you mean. I'd consider it tube enough for me, but I guess if you want true mojo, that might not tick the required boxes!

    The tubemeister... They call it all tube, but it does have a high gain channel, which presumably uses extra gain stages which are SS as opposed to valve shizzle. It does have a sweet voice though, and I'm a strong believer in 'using my ears'. After all, how many people insist on a pure signal path, before sticking a tubescreamer, analogue delay and chorus pedal in front of the amp? :P

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    Egnater Tweaker 15 head or combo. Also Keep an eye out for the 5 watt version that is supposedly on the cards late this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paultheoneyoulove View Post
    (a) Ahh I see what you mean. I'd consider it tube enough for me, but I guess if you want true mojo, that might not tick the required boxes!

    (b) The tubemeister... They call it all tube, but it does have a high gain channel, which presumably uses extra gain stages which are SS as opposed to valve shizzle. It does have a sweet voice though, and I'm a strong believer in 'using my ears'. (c) After all, how many people insist on a pure signal path, before sticking a tubescreamer, analogue delay and chorus pedal in front of the amp? :P
    (a) oh yeah, i mean if you like how it sounds it doesn't matter. Just I want people to go in with their eyes open, kind of thing.

    (b) yep, that's why i'm suspicious- I've never tried one, but the clips i've heard have been really pretty high gain, yet it only has the one preamp tube (assuming it uses the whole second one as a phase inverter).

    (c) true, though none of those pedals will make a tube amp's tube phase inverter solid state, lol. and those pedals can also be turned off, mixed and matched, etc. etc.


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    The new Carr Bloke amp has diode clipping, Rivera use it in Clubsters, Hughes and Kettner Statesman etc. loads of amps use it, I think when there is a decent amount of gain in a push pull amp and only 2 preamp valves there's going to be some solid state gain in the system somewhere. Nothing to worry about if you like the sound you get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mc View Post
    (b) yep, that's why i'm suspicious- I've never tried one, but the clips i've heard have been really pretty high gain, yet it only has the one preamp tube (assuming it uses the whole second one as a phase inverter).
    As this amp uses EL84s which don't require much voltage swing, then it could well use a concertina phase splitter, which only uses one triode, and then would allow you to use 3 gain stages in the pre-amp.

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    ^ yeah that's possible, i suppose. As i said, i'd withhold judgement until I'd seen a schematic- H&K used the words "all-tube" in their descriptions of it, so

    ^^ i'd agree, up to a point, but i also wouldn't say it's "nothing to worry about", either. most of those high gain, actually-all-tube amps are expensive- you might think you're getting a good deal if a cheaper amp seems to be similarly high gain, when it's actually doing it with diodes etc. The other thing is, if you're more-or-less getting it from a pedal anyway in those hybrid designs, you might find a cheaper amp with a pedal in front does those tones just as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mc View Post
    ^^ i'd agree, up to a point, but i also wouldn't say it's "nothing to worry about", either. most of those high gain, actually-all-tube amps are expensive- you might think you're getting a good deal if a cheaper amp seems to be similarly high gain, when it's actually doing it with diodes etc. The other thing is, if you're more-or-less getting it from a pedal anyway in those hybrid designs, you might find a cheaper amp with a pedal in front does those tones just as well.
    For what it's worth...the Jet City amps are all-valve, as far as I'm aware (since they're more or less carbon copies of existing Soldano amps, with the exception of the Picovalve). In fact, I think their amps are some of the only ones you can find at that price point which are.
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    ...so hearing the sound not coming from my arse is a weird concept...

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    yeah they are- even the loop is valve-driven (rubbish line-level loop, but still )

    traynor is all-valve, too (the ycv50 on thomann), as are the laney vc15/30 and lc15/30. And gh50/100L (bit more expensive, but sometimes you can find deals). those ones have ss-driven loops and reverbs, but they're still technically all-valve.

    that's kinda what i meant- blackstar apologists act like everyone is doing it. Everyone isn't doing it, there are still actually all-valve amps available at that price point.

    and all those wee single-ended 5 watters are normally all-tube.

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