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    Quote Originally Posted by bertie View Post
    does the audience play in the band ?

    also, are barratt still the 'landlord' ? bit confused about what you mean by the term 'landlord' -
    The house is privately owned but then rented out.

    The house had been owned by a couple who got into financial difficulties. The house wasn't well maintained by them but looked okay and they sold it very cheap on the basis they could continue to live there if they paid rent. The man from the couple became ill, went into a nursing home and then died. The woman was able to obtain council accomodation.We then had a period in which the house was empty and sporadic half arsed renovations were done by dodgy looking blokes on saturday mornings who left all their mess at the front of the house. We eventually got the council to take an interest and they threatened the landlord/owner with court proceedings unless it was cleared ( so no direct dispute on our part). I'd be very suprised if it wasn't all dumped down some country lane. The house was put up for rent and we have had a series of Romanian migrant workers living there since. The house looks a mess and we have been interviewed by the police about the Romanian neighbours, as far as I can work out one of them is now a serving prisoner as part of a car ringing gang.

    Barratts owned the land originally, built the house and put on the restrictive covenants (no storage of caravans, no fences around front gardens, that kind of stuff) so they could try and enforce them. However, seems like this would be very unusual for them to do so. Looks like these covenants are often created on new build estates to keep the place looking nice whilst further houses go up so not to damage their sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erictheweary View Post
    Barratts owned the land originally, built the house and put on the restrictive covenants (no storage of caravans, no fences around front gardens, that kind of stuff) so they could try and enforce them. However, seems like this would be very unusual for them to do so. Looks like these covenants are often created on new build estates to keep the place looking nice whilst further houses go up so not to damage their sales.

    Not totally the neighbours from hell but not exactly wonderfull.
    Try and search online for the original planning permission for the development - a lot of councils have this stuff available. See if there's a condition on the planning permission for the development that prohibited caravans. If there is, that's why Barratt's will have created the covenant; because they were told to by the council.

    If such a condition does exist, you can ask your council's planning enforcement team to look into the matter (although if they're anything like the human dynamos that I work with here, they may decide it's "not expedient to pursue").
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    A planning condition that says "no caravans"? Really?

    No, as eric says, these particular covenants were put in place to help the development look pretty, uncluttered and unspoiled while Barratt was selling them. Barratt's interest in spending money on their enforcement now, with no financial gain for itself is likely to be zero. Would have been OK if the benefit of the covenants was sold to a Estate Residents Ltd company in which everyone had an equal share.

    My ex has exactly this problem, also on a privately built estate with similar covenants. Her front window view is now of the slab side of a huge caravan, and there's nowt she can do about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Harrison View Post
    I'm definitely on the right forum then when this is the response of a "moderator".

    Really "moderate"....
    "Moderate" is my middle name.

    However, my first name is "Not" and my surname is "At-All".
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherjack View Post
    If such a condition does exist, you can ask your council's planning enforcement team to look into the matter (although if they're anything like the human dynamos that I work with here, they may decide it's "not expedient to pursue").
    they were my starting point and the people who said 'oh no, its a restrictive covenant, nothing to do with us.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoFi View Post
    True - the band I used to play with had a pretty good crowd normally, but on the couple of occasions we were booked as part of a "night" with other ska bands, the crowd looked like an NF rally.

    Skinheads and ska have been linked since the beginning.

    No idea about the topic but I do know that skinheads started with London kids dressing like their Jamaican mates.
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    I used to live on an estate which had covenants placed on it. But I think it was the council who placed the covenants, not the builder, in order to keep the place looking nice (as if, it was a typical housing estate). You couldn't have fences in the front garden, over a certain size, it was all meant to be open plan. But people used to enclose their plots anyway.

    I asked about this, and was told by the local council that covenants weren't exactly cast in stone, and had less effect after a period of time. If no-one complained within a reasonable time about people sticking up fences, or whatever, it became custom and practice, and the covenant lost it's effectiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reverend View Post
    Skinheads and ska have been linked since the beginning.

    No idea about the topic but I do know that skinheads started with London kids dressing like their Jamaican mates.

    I used to live in London, but never saw any Jamaicans with Dr. Marten boots, braces, and shaved heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chillidoggy View Post
    I used to live in London, but never saw any Jamaicans with Dr. Marten boots, braces, and shaved heads.
    Quiet enough day that I was reading internet articles about skinheads when I was having lunch.

    The theory is that skinheads emerged out of the Mod culture, so the earliest skinheads were known as Hard Mods and wearing Levi's and suits and hats and braces, listening to ska and pretty much emulating a Jamaican look. Shaven heads,right wing extremism, tatts and all that came later.

    Sometimes when I walk through Birmingham city centre there is a sort of skinhead revivalist group - teenagers with shaven heads, crombie coats, turned up Levi's, tall DM's,etc.It sometimes occurs to me to ask if they just like the fashion or if they are into a bit of racist violence or what the crack is. Then it occurs to me that there are more of them than me and they are wearing big boots so I don't bother.
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    Everyone in my street has breached some part of the original covenants, by removing trees, paving front gardens, painting doors a different colour, or parking works vans on their drives... we haven't any caravans, though. Just a couple of VW campers.

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