G3 or Mooers?

[monquixote]

I'm having a bit of a board rejig and hopefully selling my Nova Mod and Memory Boy.

Once that's done I'm going to go one of two directions.

Option one is buy a Mooer Chorus, Trem and Delay from Marc Mart.

Option two is buy a Zoom G3.

I don't need massive flexibility. I only use the above effects really, but the idea of a G3 appeals to me as I could use the amp sim as a backup if required as well as a practice tool. I'd probably just set it up to have 3 patches (1 trem, 2 chorus and long delay, 3 slapback).

What would you do forum folk? (feel free to suggest something totally different.

[chrispy108]

G3, I love mine

[Not_the_DJ]

G3, I love mine

/\ Very wise man

Seriously though the G3 gives you a hell of a lot more than just the FX (and they're worth the price alone). For headphone practice it's a cracking bit of kit (although I'd prefer it if it had an AUX in for an iPod etc).

Go on, you know you want to ;-)

[monquixote]

/\ Very wise man

Seriously though the G3 gives you a hell of a lot more than just the FX (and they're worth the price alone). For headphone practice it's a cracking bit of kit (although I'd prefer it if it had an AUX in for an iPod etc).

Go on, you know you want to ;-)

Which does beg the question, why are you selling it?

[Not_the_DJ]

Which does beg the question, why are you selling it?

Well, a while ago I had a pedalboard full of seperate stomp boxes. Then I tried a Line 6 M5, I was mightly impressed but soon after found the one effect at a time limiting, so I bought an M9. I sold a few pedals to fund d it. I did a few gigs with the M9 set up ( plus regular drive pedals) and all was well. Except I had this niggling doubt that a multi unit wasn't quite for me. I knew I wasn't even scratching the surface of what the M9 could do. In parallel to this I was also after a back-up solution in case I had amp troubles at gigs, that's when I got interested in the G3 as I could use the amp sims direct into the PA and still have the delay and reverb FX I needed.

So I sold the M9 and bought the G3. I then also sold a Fender Mustang amp that I used for headphone practice at home.

(Still with me?)

I then started gassing for various fancy pedals. I quick sussesion I bought a Suhr Jack Rabbit Tremolo, a TC Nova Delay (ib version) and I bought back the Micro Pog and Hall of Fame reverbs that I had before my M9 blind alley.

So I was only using the G3 as a back-up. In fact I never actually used it as a back up as ( touch wood) I never needed to.

Then (sorry I am rambling aren't I?) I bought an Orange Micro Terror, which became my back-up solution for gigs. That was really the final nail in the coffin for my multi- FX days.

I just don't get excited about patches and menus, even if they sound great. I just like seperate pedals that I can turn and tweek on the fly. I tried that other route but it just wasn't for me

The Line 6 M series and the G3 are great bits if kit. On a par FX wise, but the amp sims and headphone use of the G3 is s big plus.

But for me it wasn't right, and to have all that capability being sat in a box unused is a waste....so that's why I'm selling it.

[monquixote]

Hmm certainly some food for thought there.

I think I'm probably pretty similar to you really.
My last dalliance with multi FX was a Nova System and though it sounded brilliant frankly I hated it. I know some people can patch switch left right and centre and spend hours in menus tweaking stuff, but I just felt bored and confused and when I don't feel safe on stage I just stop using stuff which means I end up not using any fx at gigs and just revert to clean channel + OD + volume control.

I don't understand it really as I work developing products for an audio technology company so you would think I would be Mr Axe FX.

At the moment I have wah, OD (Sunshine), Distortion (Riot), Nova Mod, Delay and I only really use the Nova as a glorified trem. I've even stopped using the pedal from my Supersonic and just use clean + pedals.

The G3 appeals to me because I quite fancy the idea of having a backup in the event of my amp exploding and I would really enjoy jamming with the looper and drum machine. I have a 12 year old POD that could do with being put out to pasture so this could very well be just the thing.

This of course relies on my not getting pissed off with the fiddly buttons for band playing. Taking that into consideration a cery basic trem and delay would probably be a far more useful setup for me. If I had a bit more cash I'd probably get both.

[Fusionista]

[QUOTE] I just don't get excited about patches and menus, even if they sound great. I just like separate pedals that I can turn and tweak on the fly. I tried that other route but it just wasn't for me [QUOTE]

+1 and nobody could have been more disappointed. That said, people are swearing by (and at?) the Axe-FX II and I worked out if I sold my entire collection of pedals I could just about afford it. Just, well,...I don't belieeeeve it.

[paultheoneyoulove]

Multi fx (in this format) are a solution to home practise and gigging for people who need a lot of very different sounds, or who don't know what sound they want. Pedals are much easier to use on the fly, and often (though not always) offer a more natural response to playing style (in my opinion). If the Mooer pedals give you the sounds you want, I'd go for them. But if you want to have fun, and play all sorts of stuff, even in the comfort of your own home, the zoom is excellent.

I use a pod studio ux2 with pod farm and run the out into the input of my Mooer little monster. Keep the gain low, and the output of the ux2 below halfway, and I have an excellent home practise tool for when I fancy some metal or weird synth stuff. It's a lot of tweaking, but I use it at least twice a week, and can emulate anything. The recording is good, too.

I guess I'm saying there is a place for both. For fun factor, the zoom takes some beating...

[bobsbobbackwards]

The G3 delays are worth the price alone. I use it with analog pedals on my pedalboard as a delay unit plus the odd additional effect like chorus, stutter, vibe, compressor etc. I use the auto wah on the G3 but things like that I'll eventually replace with analog.
You can have six effects on at once with the G3 but I find switching between them a PITA so want to get it so I only need it for 3 you can see, perhaps 2 delays and reverb ( i.e. things that are usually digital anyway).

Personally, I couldn't give up the delay on the G3 for something like Mooer delay. I use the filter delays, tape, analog etc all with tap tempo to create rhythmical nasty repeats that stay in time with the band, whereas the Mooer is very limited (although probably ideal is you just want basic delay to thicken leads etc or short slapback). I thought about upgrading the G3 to a timeline but didn't because it has a better looper, loads of additional effects and the delay's sound great anyway. So I'm bloody stuck with it!

I say a G3 and a couple of Mooer drive pedals would be best of both worlds.

[timmyo]

Only you can answer it - how well do you know yourself?

A few times in the past I've convinced my self that such-and-such a multifx device is the answer and I always come away frustrated. I am absolutely NOT a menus-and-patches person. I know this now so prefer to live with the inherent limitations of individual pedals, whereas others get better results out of multis. Which sounds most like you?