Consumer pressure and media brings Starbucks to heel !!!

[Myranda_Rose]

Where will all the mac wielding pseudo poet hipsters go????

Hopefully Hipsters will go and eat some bacon... then they wont fit in those horrific skinny jeans any more, and will have to stop being Hipsters, and so they will have to stop being judgemental and telling everyone that they did everything cool before it was cool/invented, they will have to get jobs in the construction industry where they will meet a girl named Sue. Sue will leave them for a woman named Nora. After being dumped they will cry into a Starbucks coffee cup, filled only with dust and memmories of a better time, a time where they were loved... well not loved but respected... well, not respected but tollerated... ok ok, a time when they were loathed by themselves and each other for not being hipster enough while still not liking to be called a hipster. They will take a long walk into the woods and try and blow thier brains out - but oh no, the time spent eating bacon and working in construction has given them big unweildy fingers which can't operate the trigger on the shotgun they found in a second hand shop (well, harrods, but if they say it was a secondhand shop they'll be cooler). Eventually desperate and misserable they will open a coffee shop, which will offer judgemental coffee at over inflated prices and wi-fi access... they will call the various sizes of cup preposterous names and they will be so successful that they will open another shop, and another, and another until finally they find the crushing burden of tax to be too great and they will find loopholes in a flawed tax system...

Oh.

[stickyfiddle]

Equally Starbucks & their shareholders don't want all the negative PR. Or a potential consumer boycott - which was looking like becoming a reality.

True enough. I want to add "but only among the muppets who don't understand economics", but unfortunately that seems to be almost everyone these days

[FBF]

Hopefully Hipsters will go and eat some bacon... then they wont fit in those horrific skinny jeans any more, and will have to stop being Hipsters, and so they will have to stop being judgemental and telling everyone that they did everything cool before it was cool/invented, they will have to get jobs in the construction industry where they will meet a girl named Sue. Sue will leave them for a woman named Nora. After being dumped they will cry into a Starbucks coffee cup, filled only with dust and memmories of a better time, a time where they were loved... well not loved but respected... well, not respected but tollerated... ok ok, a time when they were loathed by themselves and each other for not being hipster enough while still not liking to be called a hipster. They will take a long walk into the woods and try and blow thier brains out - but oh no, the time spent eating bacon and working in construction has given them big unweildy fingers which can't operate the trigger on the shotgun they found in a second hand shop (well, harrods, but if they say it was a secondhand shop they'll be cooler). Eventually desperate and misserable they will open a coffee shop, which will offer judgemental coffee at over inflated prices and wi-fi access... they will call the various sizes of cup preposterous names and they will be so successful that they will open another shop, and another, and another until finally they find the crushing burden of tax to be too great and they will find loopholes in a flawed tax system...

Oh.

Since I have never heard your voice, I read that in Sarah Millican's voice and envisioned her on stage at the Hammy Odeon in a spotlight saying it. It worked surprisingly well You should get on well with that kind of material and stage presence

[evilmags]

True enough. I want to add "but only among the muppets who don't understand economics", but unfortunately that seems to be almost everyone these days

Don't get me ranting on that subject. Professional economists tend to split 33%/33%/33% between Keynesians, Monetarists and Austrians. Try finding a UK university that teaches Friedman (Monetraisim) as a central tenant of its course. At some univesities at Masters levels they don't even touch Austrian school. So the teaching of the subject is done with the typical political bias inherant in the UK public sector. So knowledge is replaced with dogma...

[Vim Fuego]

So knowledge is replaced with dogma...

geunine LOL

[scrumhalf]

If Starbucks cave in their shareholders should cry blue murder and demand the dismissal of whoever is responsible.

You can't voluntarily pay more tax, it's treated as a payment on account towards your next liability. (Who was that stupid Labour MP who declared she was going to pay tax on her expenses and waved a cheque at some cameras to prove how honest she now was?)

What's at fault is our tax legislation. We need a root and branch reform of the tax system. We had a simple and effective system until the Brown one decided to destroy it, resulting in a doubling of tax legislation. You double the legislation, you double the schemes to avoid paying tax. Combine that with a merger of Inland Revenue and Customs and Excise, together with a reduction in staffing, and deals get done where there might be resistance in order no to tie up too many members of the now combined staff.

You can have a tax system that aims to maximise yields, or you can have one that tries to redistribute income. You can't have both.

[Myranda_Rose]

Since I have never heard your voice, I read that in Sarah Millican's voice and envisioned her on stage at the Hammy Odeon in a spotlight saying it. It worked surprisingly well You should get on well with that kind of material and stage presence

Oh, that's luv'ly pet, cheers.

I wish sometimes I had a regional accent... maybe then I could talk to Irish people - I always (literally always) put on an Irish accent... I'm told I can do a passable dublin accent, which is odd - I've never once been there. My mother is from Northern, but has no accent having spent more of her life not in the north than in it, and my father was born and raised and emotionally died in Sussex so has no cool regional accent either.

And because of my inherent lack of self confidence and overwhelming self loathing I think my voice is somewhere between Jo Brand and Jo Pasquale(or however you spell the squeeky man's voice) with a little Doug Stanhope and Sandi Toksvig...

Or, if I must stick with no regional accent I'd love to sound like Sue Perkins, which would cause great confusion when she and I marry and own lots of cats... I might have to tell her about the whole marriage thing first, and chloroform her, but I'm sure it will happen - so our matching voices would cause nothing but confusion when people call on the bacolite telephone.

I might, possibly have had a small mental wobble (which may or may not have required nearly a month of recuperation, but thats another story entirely) recently which has sent me rather peculiar and having felt a little tired I''ve just downed can of monster ripper (cause or effect?) so I'm not entirely sure I'm making much sense... or as much sense as usual... I'm fairly certain it's monday, other than that it's all subject to change.

[Vim Fuego]

I'm always amused that when big business finds ways to circumvent their societal responsibilties it's called being clever and not at all their fault, yet when ordianry people do similar to the benefits system they get called parasites and benefit grazers. If I didn't know better, I'd call that a double standard.

funny old world sometimes...

[chillidoggy]

I only drink one cup of coffee a day, and that's first thing in the morning. Starbucks, Costa, and all the rest if them can go fuck themselves as a result. I'm never drinking their shite.

[Myranda_Rose]

I'm always amused that when big business finds ways to circumvent their societal responsibilties it's called being clever and not at all their fault, yet when ordianry people do similar to the benefits system they get called parasites and benefit grazers. If I didn't know better, I'd call that a double standard.

funny old world sometimes...

I like the way that rich people can avoid billions in tax, get called parasites and then the government do nothing about it, a chav with 48 children, a semi-detached walk-in uterus and a name like Latrine claims an extra £5 a month by mistake and is sent to the colonies to live a life in servitude picking cotton, but becomes a world famous sex worker and returns triumphant to the motherland where she is cruelly treated by a rich baron.