Chinese POS fakes...

[Akeldama]

China already makes all Apple's phones, and that's where Xbox and PlayStations come from too. I'm sure they can nail a few wires to a bit of wood quite well.

Once we start getting premium Chinese guitars hopefully we'll see the silly prices of US guitars fall.

[guitarfishbay]

Facebook has some interesting chancers. Seems to be the hang out of choice for Del Boy wannabes

Ironically it isn't even an anonymous method of selling, since you are supposed to use your real name and most people also use proper pictures of themselves in their profile. Probably some of these accounts are fake identities, but I wouldn't be surprised if some people are exactly who it says they are.

[Big Paulie]

That's something that bothers me a little actually - builders like JXG *do* get praised for selling their instruments with the big G on the headstock. I'm not arguing that his instruments are of better quality, I just dont get where the line is drawn.

It is a tricky one.

I don't like premium/boutique luthiers/builders putting F or G logos on their production guitars.

That said, I don't mind the fact that Gil Yaron put the G logo on his burst prototypes in the interests of a "look what I can do" excercise. It is right, however, that his production guitars don't have "Gibson" on the headstock.

Don't know how I feel about Derrig doing it back in the day. I don't think he was trying to fool his customers that they were buying real Gibsons. Seems to me he was pretty honest about what he was providing; i.e. a guitar that Gibson weren't capable of producing at that time.

It is my gut feeling however that I think he should have put his own logo on those guitars. Slash knew the guitar wasn't a genuine Gibson, so probably would still have used the Derrig to record AFD and the Derrig legend would still have happened.

[Lustycourtier]

Ive never, like most people, had a 59 burst replica built, but I believe the really good ones are bought almost anonymously from mystery builders, and the best builders names are never discussed openly, so its clear that it rarely sits that well with people.

Maybe it is snobbery that 'this replica cost £5k, so its ok to own, but this £200 one isnt'.

[frankus]

Ive never, like most people, had a 59 burst replica built, but I believe the really good ones are bought almost anonymously from mystery builders, and the best builders names are never discussed openly, so its clear that it rarely sits that well with people.

Maybe it is snobbery that 'this replica cost £5k, so its ok to own, but this £200 one isnt'.

Perhaps legal action doesn't sit well with people, and perhaps there's exclusivity too.

and perhaps it's snobbery or perhaps the attitude being described is totally different:

"I like Ted McCarty's design - I just don't happen to like Gibson's current interpretation of it, I am paying for an artisan to recreate an earlier work and for what I'm paying I could buy any of Gibson's current stock - but they don't stock exactly what I want" - add to that Gibson are not suffering any if Slash is playing a guitar with Gibson written on it.

Compared to:

"I want a guitar that looks like a Gibson from a country that make them cheaper, and I don't mind what chemicals, civil rights violations, health and safety concerns, copyright laws, rare woods etc have been used in it's production provided it's a tenth of the price of the real thing".

[bochetagrave]

Facebook has some interesting chancers. Seems to be the hang out of choice for Del Boy wannabes

Ironically it isn't even an anonymous method of selling, since you are supposed to use your real name and most people also use proper pictures of themselves in their profile. Probably some of these accounts are fake identities, but I wouldn't be surprised if some people are exactly who it says they are.

I use my 'porn star' name, and a picture of our late, much missed, greyhound, but it's not a fake account, as such..