yamaha sg's

[lushery]

I know that Yamaha SGs have a less than linear approach to model numbering. I was wondering if someone knows the differences between an SG3000 and a SG3000S. It seems that generally speaking the S suffix denotes some lower spec - but this changes on model to model. Anyone (with both) know?

[spark240]

http://www.vintageguitar.com/1979/yamaha-sg/

everything.......except the "S" !

[Guitarmonkey]

The "S" suffix denotes the ability to Split coils using push-push switches on the tone controls.

[musophilr]

The "S" suffix denotes the ability to Split coils using push-push switches on the tone controls.

That facility is also on the SG2000. I thought the S suffix was for Stereo

[Guitarmonkey]

Maybe, if they all now have the facility, the distinction has been lost, but originally in the 1970s the S was for split coil.

[IanCorps]

I always took the SG3000S to be a tad more bling laden , extra abalone binding etc over the standard SG3000, though get an SG2000 , especially an old one if you have the cash

[TTony]

I always took the SG3000S to be a tad more bling laden

I think you're right. Except that I recall it as being a rather large "tad" more bling .

The designations I remember were SG1000/2000/3000, with the 3000 being top of the tree. Didn't that also have some sort of brass insert under the bridge to improve sound transference (or something)? A 1500 appeared at some time too.

There were other models sg300/500/700/800 (and maybe more than I've forgotten) which were lower end models, or possibly the forerunners to the 1000/2000/3000 range, or possibly even Japanese-market only originally.

There was also a different model designation used for the US market to avoid confusing those poor Americans who'd assume that "SG" referred to some other guitar that was around at the time.

Then there were the recent re-issues too ...

In my experience, they were brilliant instruments, well built with good quality materials (at each price point), huge sound and massive weight. Which is why I sold the ones that I had ... just couldn't hold the things due to back problems.

But the physio has sorted my back out now ...

[bertie]

the S stands for Secret. Yamaha added a few extra features on the S models, but negated to make them public

[mctoot]

the S stands for Secret. Yamaha added a few extra features on the S models, but negated to make them public

That's it Bert, you've blown it now. The Grand Poobah will be contacting you shortly to eject you from the YammieSecretCircle.

[lushery]

It's really odd but I've seen an ad that infers the only difference is whether or not the scratchplate is pre-installed (3000yes, 3000s no) but typically I cant find it now. I know that the differences on some models are dots vs blocks, body thickness (thinner on S types) and sometimes binding. There's also some 'foreign' models, with the Western version of the 1500 way short of the gorgeous Japanese one

They're awesome guitars - I love my 3000 and my flatmate has a 98 1000 she got for a steal that is awesome.