Maybe it's just me, but I don't like the look of them. look too small and weedy with big heads. If I was given a set they wouldn't go on any guitar of mine!
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+1Originally Posted by TheGuitarWeasel
Bad design. A solution in search of a problem, that won't hold up to use in real life. Any set of guitar machineheads should be able to take the tension of any set of guitar strings. If the weight of the tuners is that important, there's something more fundamental wrong with the guitar anyway.
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Yeah this is a good site http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mu.../wwwscalc.html
We had to do loads of these calculations on my degree for the instrument design analysis module I also will have to do some later this year for my masters degree.
I think he said they were either over or near £100
It would certianly rule out some gauges of string for sure I would have to calculate it first though im a bit rusty
Ha ha I said the same to him! If you drop the guitar and it hits the hets they are toast.
A lighter stronger material would be a better option, I'm sure its possible. Fair play to Gotoh for throwing some crazy designs out there though.
Yes, but it's only worthwhile if they are also good designs that can hold up to use in the real world. There are only a limited number of ways of reinventing a tried and tested design before you find out why they're tried and tested.
At least they look like they'll work better than those LSR ones.
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They work within limited applications and thats no different to millions of other products and components out there in the market which have limitations. Obviously something that can do everything is better but if weight is important to you and you can guarantee that your instrument is not going to break the tension limits then they are viable.
Maybe the next step for them is a tuner of similar weight that can take all tensions, who knows what goes on in R & D.
regarding allparts - i have done 100's of orders with them so have experienced the 'out of stock' issue a few times
Most times the out of stock items arrive within 2 weeks, no extra postage to pay and if its a part i want and am happy i would rather have it from allparts rather than a cheaper version from somewhere else then i see no problem waiting less than 2 weeks for it.
I have had one order for a neck that took 3 months to arrive, it was also out of stock in the US so needed to be made. The wait was more than i wanted but still comparable with ordering a neck made to the same spec and a lot cheaper too, so not too much bother.
Now, with the large stuff like bodies and necks, i generally check if they are in stock in the US when deciding whether to go with allparts. if its out of stock over there i will use that to decide if i am happy to wait
generally speaking though, the service over all those orders has been excellent
they state all of this pretty clearly in there FAQ which is linked to whenever an item is out of stock
http://www.allparts.uk.com/backorders-c-674.html
That site is ok if you know the string density, but that depends on the way the string is made, so you're pretty much forced to guess (unless you can very carefully weigh the string and measure its volume!)
Daddario have a site with exact tensions for many of their strings:
http://www.daddario.com/DAstringtensionguide.Page
It's presumably accurate for their strings, but I suspect it would be a useful rule of thumb for most other brands too.
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