Hiwatt "clone"(?) ebay

[MrFoxen]

good for you for making so much profit on that amp then. we don't need to repeat this discussion on this forum as well as Vintage Amps.

what lies am I spreading? that it sold for £1,250 and not £1,500? I think that is the only inaccuracy, for which i apologise. However, i am not lying about what you paid for it or relisting it immediately and unaltered at 2.5 times the price. as i said we don't need to repeat that here. it's all in black and white elsewhere.

I'm not embittered about you at all. I'm just advising that in my opinion your prices are very high, a matter which you have discussed elsewhere, and people shouldn't take them necessarily as an indication of market value since you're obviously after maximum profit. I'm also pointing out that others can pay the same low prices you do if they keep their eyes open. That's all.

i personally won't be sorry if you don't "occupy" this forum in order to try and scalp bargains and drive up prices. just my opinion. Good luck racking up the post count.

Again with the 'unaltered'. Sure it doesn't take me many days to get such an amp working, because they are well made and I have a few years accumulation of experience and parts to sort them to hand, plus a fairly specific enthusiasm for such things. Sets of Mullard valves, original sleeve parts and suchlike necessary to the process aren't free items. Welcome to link up some equivalent items at better prices if you feel the need to support your assertions, but I suspect your information might be out of date or fictional, what with being fairly involved with such things.

[parker_knoll]

double post, slow computer

[parker_knoll]

I'm not trolling, I'm discussing prices and that in my opinion his prices should not be taken as an indication of what you need to pay. He's joined the forum to put his side, which he's done. A seller can charge what he wants to charge and the emptor can caveat, everyone's free.

I guess I don't really like what I see as gouging (as the Americans call it) on vintage amps, just like i don't like to see people buy old guitars just to strip them and sell them off as bits.

There's lots of knowledge around on this forum. It's a nice forum.

Regarding that particular Hiwatt, the discussion is here for you to go through if you want. I think I probably expressed everything there and really don't want to go over it all again. You can make whatever judgments you want from that, although I am over six foot, but i could be a jealous biggish man.
http://vintageamps.com/plexiboard/vi...p?f=3&t=102899

Regarding the original post, like i say the maker was on here but got banned for some reason - probably a listings violation - but I;m sure you can find his posts. He used the name Electric Gypsy if i recall. He's also on Vintageamps under the name Elektrik so you can check him out there.

I really don't want to get into an argument, no matter how jealous or bitter I may be. I try to contribute here occasionally in some way, that is all, so I'll bow out.

[MrFoxen]

Yep, joined the forum a year ago, just in anticipation of some guy being upset that I'd sell an amp I hadn't bought yet for more than he sold his different amp for.

[parker_knoll]

lol. but which amp are we actually talking about that you haven't bought yet that's different than the one i sold?

and i said i wouldn't come back in

I'm not out of date, i'm also involved and follow this stuff daily, otherwise i wouldn't make a comment about it. I have a lot of amps too.

broken (yours): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300859054572

working:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251191707063

also working:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271148754269

Another working went for £175. That's all the ones of that model that have sold in the UK in the last 4 months by my monitoring, just as an example.

that's all i'm saying. go ahead and charge whatever you want, you are free to do so. Prices vary a lot. There's some great bargains on ebay right now. I should have bid on that beautiful Fane equipped Selmer 2x12 that finished tonight.

UPDATE: actually everyone should go and read that vintageamps thread but beyond my moaning and onto the end where it gets better

[MrFoxen]

Those aren't Hiwatts, and they are neither £1250, nor £1500. This is a thread on Hiwatt related stuff, you were bringing up the Hiwatt, what with the direct references, and the thread about the Hiwatt on the other forum, which you mentioned (where you mentioned you didn't have many amps). Additionally those won't ship, which is a pretty big deal for the sellable value of amps that are common in the UK and rare everywhere else.

[parker_knoll]

before i did. then i didn't as i had to pay for two vinyl pressings. now i do again

[parker_knoll]

you mentioned you didn't have many amps.

before i did. then i didn't as i had to sell a bunch to pay for two vinyl pressings. now i do again

I bought both those amps and they both shipped. I agree with you about the effect of shipping on value and have shared that on this forum any times. Anyway, the prices on the hiwatts are all in that thread i linked and that really is probably enough from me.

[PTQ]

Well I didn't expect that!

Putting the arguements about profiteering aside, it is clear that "vintage" gear is becoming collectable for whatever reason and may well be becoming out of reach price-wise for many musicians either pro or amateur. In that case (and to bring this thread around to it's starting point) If a builder pops up that is able to replicate the sound given by either the originals or the latest "badged" reproductions, and at a price that competes favourably with the mass-produced-currently-available examples, then it's got to be worth a look.

[parker_knoll]

Well I didn't expect that!

Putting the arguements about profiteering aside, it is clear that "vintage" gear is becoming collectable for whatever reason and may well be becoming out of reach price-wise for many musicians either pro or amateur. In that case (and to bring this thread around to it's starting point) If a builder pops up that is able to replicate the sound given by either the originals or the latest "badged" reproductions, and at a price that competes favourably with the mass-produced-currently-available examples, then it's got to be worth a look.

some stuff is cheaper than it's been for years, especially Fenders for some reason. Benefits of recession.

Here's more from that amp builder: http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/squa...-designer.html

If you do a search for "elektrik gypsy" you'll find a few threads but i'm not sure if anyone's actually played one yet.