Justin Sandercoe is having some done.
Cut from farcebook.
The dentist doing it seems awesome and took a full 3d scan of my jaw today, quite incredible technology. Less than half the cost of a UK dentist, if any of you need implants, it's only 4 hour drive from Calais (in Fountainebleau). My buddy Richard does their cosmetic stuff too if you need things other than implants!!
http://www.dr-lachaux-marc.chirurgiens-dentistes.fr/
I have one cap mounted on a post, but it was done 20 years ago, after an "incident" in a public house...
I'm on "Denplan" where I pay £25 per month, and most dental work is included, but not implants. I've just had three molars root-filled (all three roots on each molar) and another filling to do on Friday, all on the plan. The dentist said he could have chucked me off the plan, as I hadn't been for 3 years, even though I had been paying for that time. So I reckon we're about even...
Also, it's become easier to get an appointment - any truth in the rumours that dental charges are so high, people can't afford to go, while NHS dentists are impossible to join?
1. Quite likely.Originally Posted by BlindLemonAde
2. Deffo. Suffolk PCT spent so much money one year on rebranding themselves (apparently they paid a firm of "management consultants" to advise them to call themselves "NHS Suffolk") that my dentist reckoned she could have taken on an extra 20 patients with that money. I'd have given a lot more relevant advice to Suffolk PCT for half that amount of money
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The dentists I use is NHS, it's some Polish company called Dentapol. Actually, speak as I find, they're pretty damend good, appointments are never a problem, check up and descale is £18, filling is usually about £45, and the charges are capped. I did look at Denplan, but checking what I've paid over the last few years, it's way too expensive in my opinion. I have a check-up every 6-9 months, and relapcement filling maybe once in 3-4 years. But of course it's down to the individual, and their particular choppers.
I'll keep looking for a cheaper alternative, then...
I did try transferring to my local Denplan dentist (I travel 15 miles at the moment), but they rejected me as "dentally unfit", leading to the first round of root fillings (by my original dentist, who then retired), which have just been replaced by his er, replacement.
Having implants done at the moment.
All going well, implant is in and in about 10 days I have the healing abuttment to be installed.
Then another 6 weeks before the permanent replacement can go in.
Not cheap, but excellent service so far
The Reverend Lord Henry was not one of those new-fangled parsons who carry the principles of their vocation uncomfortably into private life.
That sounds quick - I thought it usually took longer for the bone to bond to the implanted bit before the post could go in, and the tooth be attached?
Did you do any research on the dentist before entrusting your mouth and wallet to their skills? I've pretty much decided to get the work done, I'm just trying to decide which dentist to use to do the work. My "normal" dentist is actually NHS -shock- who don't do implants, but "recommend" others who do.
It's been a long road!
Initial diagnosis of the diseased tooth (upper right incisor - so nice and visible) was about a year ago) - tried root canal first but the internal infection damage to the tooth was too much and risked moving into the jaw.
So tooth removed. The intent was the place the post at the same time - but the root of the tooth was very wide meaning a bone graft was needed otherwise the post would not grip properly.
There are 2 choices with bone graft - do the graft at the same time as putting the post in (packing the gaps with graft like putty), or for a much lower failure rate, do the graft and let the bone grow into the cavity. Much lower failure rate to allow the bone to grow nice and thick so I went with that and I have a temp bridge in the mean time.
At 3 months and 6 months after the graft I had x-rays to see how the bone growth was going. It went very well, so the post was fitted. Then more waiting while the bone grows and grabs the post tight - it's all sealed in at the moment.
I just had another round of x-rays to make sure the post is in solid - and it is. So on 29th Feb the gum will get opened up again and a 'Healing Abutment' will be installed.
This is a metal part that is screwed into the post. It will stick out of the gum and is a little bigger than the mounting abutment that will be used later. That makes a nicely healed up hole in the gum. The healing abutment will be hidden behind the temporary bridge tooth.
Then about 6 weeks after the healing abutment has been fitted it will be removed. The mounting abutment will be screwed in with my new permanent fake tooth. Because the healing abutment is slightly bigger than the final one, the hole is a little bigger too - and that means for the final fitting I won't even need any pain killers never mind anaesthetic. The gum will shrink back to the smaller size abutment.
I'm coming up to 40, so the post should last the rest of my natural. The abutment / tooth will probably need replacing at somewhere between 15 and 20 years. But those bits are the cheap (ish) bits.
So - it is possible to get it all done in about 6 months, but if you need a bone graft then it could be a year depending on your own bone growth and bone density.
An implant is much better than a permanent bridge - that process requires lots of damage to be done to the surrounding teeth - damage that will eventually cause them to fail anyway so you end up needing implants or dentures.
I looked at a few dentists and was nicely surprised to discover my NHS dentist did implant work privately and had a good reputation. He's been great.
The only painful bit is the injections into the roof of the mouth. That hurts like a motherfucker. The rest has been brilliant. Bit achy the day after my tooth came out, and I avoided court for a few days after the implant went in but nowt terrible at all.
If you are anywhere near Northants I'm happy to recommend my chap.
The Reverend Lord Henry was not one of those new-fangled parsons who carry the principles of their vocation uncomfortably into private life.
Thanks for the detail - mostly.
I'm hoping that I'll not need the bone graft. The last time I had x-rays done (2-3 years ago), there was enough bone left ... athough there was also a little infection left at the far end of the filled root which flares up from time to time into a particularly painful infection.
Yup, been there. My problems all started about 40 years ago - accident in a school playground. So I've been through caps, crowns, normal posts into the bone, and currently a bridge. Each time, "this is the best option" and each time it's failed. Although, to be fair, playing school rugby in later years, and the occasional fist to the mouth contributed to the damage! Throughout that time, the problem gradually spread so that now it's the upper front 4 teeth (all root filled, to different levels of success), plus another one that recently disintegrated in an unrelated incident! So that's 5 implants potentially, although the front ones might get done with 2 implants and 2 teeth hung off each post. I'm very much hoping that the implants will last me too - though my experience is that something'll go wrong and require more surgery at some point ...
That was a bit of detail that I could have done without ... But why injections into the roof - doesn't the normal dentists injection provide enough anaesthetic?
Thanks - mine will get done either in London or Norwich - more likely the latter now.
Sheesh, God really f*cked up when he did human teeth... couldn't he have made them self-replacing, like in sharks?
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