Novel speaker cabinet designs for use with head at home?

[ROOG]

I have been looking at 112 and 210 cabinets, but these take up quite a bit of room for home use.

So I have been looking around for a compact speaker cabinet that would sit under a head and not take up much room, (I’m thinking head sized ish). It doesn’t need to “project” and I wouldn’t be using it at high volume but it would be nice to retain some bass. I have been toying with the idea of designing one using multiple smaller drivers, and a ported cabinet, a bit like the Yamaha thr’s do, but on a larger scale.

Alternately using a non directional bass driver with smaller mid range units in the front?

Any one seen such a thing?

Look it’s Friday, I’m having a bad day already, this is kind of a distraction, humour me!

[guitargeek62]

Turn one on it's side?

[ROOG]

Or paint it to match it's surroundings, still gonna hurt when you stub your toe on it, or Mrs Roog runs the Hoover into it

[ICBM]

Sounds like a good idea, but be prepared for a vast amount of experimentation to get it to work right. You could possibly try copying something like the THR or the new Roland one, but even that's not guaranteed to work right if you don't use the same drivers, and they may have 'corrected' EQ on the amps anyway - the same speakers and cabs may not work well with a normal amp.

It's important to remember that what we perceive as 'good guitar tone' is not the result of acoustic design, but a combination of inspiration, available parts and materials, practicality and pure luck. Something like an original Fender Champ (for example) is a basic RCA amp circuit - not tuned or optimised for anything in particular - stuck in a small, portable pine box with a cheap 1950s radio speaker. It sounds great for guitar, but not because there's any science behind it!

The original Celestion G12 wasn't designed for guitar even though it's one of the best guitar speakers ever - the G stands for General Purpose, not Guitar - it was meant as a full-range music speaker for PA, as in "stick everything through it in a dance hall"... hence the high efficiency, to make the low-powered amps of the day as loud as possible.

[digitalscream]

Just as a thought, why not try a 2x10" ported bass cabinet, and replace the drivers with guitar speakers?

[ROOG]

Sounds like a good idea, but be prepared for a vast amount of experimentation to get it to work right. You could possibly try copying something like the THR or the new Roland one, but even that's not guaranteed to work right if you don't use the same drivers, and they may have 'corrected' EQ on the amps anyway - the same speakers and cabs may not work well with a normal amp.

It's important to remember that what we perceive as 'good guitar tone' is not the result of acoustic design, but a combination of inspiration, available parts and materials, practicality and pure luck. Something like an original Fender Champ (for example) is a basic RCA amp circuit - not tuned or optimised for anything in particular - stuck in a small, portable pine box with a cheap 1950s radio speaker. It sounds great for guitar, but not because there's any science behind it!

The original Celestion G12 wasn't designed for guitar even though it's one of the best guitar speakers ever - the G stands for General Purpose, not Guitar - it was meant as a full-range music speaker for PA, as in "stick everything through it in a dance hall"... hence the high efficiency, to make the low-powered amps of the day as loud as possible.

ICBM, I take your point about experimentation and I recall that there were some terrible HiFi ported designs out there that suffered noticable resonances.

[danomess]

How about the wee Orange cab that matches the micro terror? (I think)- this one herehttp://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electr...12011813131210

[ROOG]

How about the wee Orange cab that matches the micro terror? (I think)- this one herehttp://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electr...12011813131210

Hi danomess, I did wonder if that would have been good idea, especially considering the price, but I am a bit of an experimenter and as I'm not going to gig the cabinet I thought it might be worth trying a "thr" style cab but on a slightly larger scale.

I have never felt the need to be a conformist, even if it means I fail from time to time.

What worries me, and is to some extent the reason for the post is why no one has done this for small practice amps before, Yamaha thr and Roland thingy being recent exceptions.

[clarky]

the Matrix 2x12 is a little smaller than a standard 2x12
it's ported so there's no loss of low end [it sounds superb]
and it's amazingly light weight [I saw a girlie pick it up by the handle with one hand without difficulty]
it's the only 2x12 that's ever really blown me away..

I tried it out through a Matrix Reaper amp head [which is similar to a JCM800 I guess]

[ICBM]

and it's amazingly light weight [I saw a girlie pick it up by the handle with one hand without difficulty]

The girlie in my band picked up a Fender Twin by the handle with one hand without apparent difficulty - and she's about five foot three and looks like she weighs eight stone or so . She just said "where does this go?" and lifted it onto a riser after I said "on there" and before I could say "but I'll do it, it's heavy".

She does martial arts. This happened at the first practice she did with the band when she joined, and at that point I made a mental note not to piss her off about anything, ever...