Technics 1200s

[Skinny Puppy]

Hi

Iv just received my technics 1200s. Dont have a mixer yet, But iv been playing the odd record on one deck, phono lead to jack plug adapter. Im basicly playing records straight into my speakers. Thought this would work ok until i get my set up sorted, but i hav the volume is up realy high but its still very quiet, im not getting a very gud sound out of just 1 deck straight into the speakers.

these are my speakers

http://www.svmlemag.fr/files/Phillips_S600.jpg

Is this volume thing normal, ie when i get a mixer the signal will be amplified.

Please could some1 put my mind at rest.

cheers

[al_diablo]

phono is a much lower output than line, so it doesn't work going straight into speakers. It needs a preamp or a mixer to boost the signal first. Your decks are not broken

[al_diablo]

phono is a much lower output than line, so it doesn't work going straight into speakers. It needs a preamp or a mixer to boost the signal first. Your decks are not broken

[Lite_Rock_FM]

It also needs to be a DJ mixer or something that advertises that it has RIAA curve on it. The EQ on records is set up funny to make it work right with the duplication process, it gets "decoded" by the eq on the preamp.

[Skinny Puppy]

I would be right in saying that all dj mixers have a pre amp or .. u know the signal boost that gives you the bigger sound built in ?, of course it would be a pointless product without the amplification.

???????

Also, Im looking at this mixer

http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR171693

i want to feed my laptop running ableton live thought my maudio firewire and into that third channel,
The signal coming from the interface frm the laptop, is the same sort of signal. ie volume/quality of signal wont differ much from the 2 technics input. ?????????

[Lite_Rock_FM]

That will work for your purposes.

Note where it allows you to switch each channel from "phono" to "line" - that's the RIAA curve engaging on the phono setting, I think. All mixers have preamps (anything with a volume control does, actually), but not all have RIAA preamps. The phono ins on this are the right thing, though.

What kind of input is that for the Microphone? It doesn't look like XLR in the photograph.

[Skinny Puppy]

Im not shure, looks just like a jack plug input. Iv not payed much attention to the microphone. But its gud to know that this set up will work for what i untend to do.

There are mixers which act as midi controler and a turntable or cd deck mixer, ie the xone stuff by alan and heath. Iv got nowhere near that much money to spend though lol.

[Ten Flew South]

@Lite rock - Any mixer or amp that has RCA inputs marked as 'phono' (phonogram) has of course, the RIAA filters built in, otherwise you'd only ever hear topend.

@ Skinny puppy - the kind of connector that is on the end of the cable from each of your decks is called RCA. The type of connector that goes into your speakers is called a JACK. Just because you can buy an adapter that connects an RCA plug to a JACK plug, doesn't mean that the SIGNAL (sound you will hear) will be the same from the beginning of its journey to the end.
For example, you can plug one of your decks into a digital (S/PDIF) input on a soundcard because they use the same connector (RCA), but the SIGNAL would be wrong and you'd hear some very unpleasant noises!

But if you have a piece of hardware, whether mixer or amp, with RCA connectors, that is marked phono, then you know that it has been designed for a turntable, and therefore any OUTPUT you take from that piece of hardware, no matter what the connector type, will give you the final sound you want.
This will usually be as RCA connectors out from a DJ mixer (and then you're free to use the adapters because the sigal is now how you want it to sound), or the same connectors (and correct sound) out from an amplifier.

It's actually rare to be able to input a turntable as RCA and output as JACK from the same device, but there are one or two audio interfaces that now offer this functionality.

Some soundcards feature RCA (just the name for the connector type, remember) inputs, but implement the RIAA filtering (for makjng turntables sound right) within software, the Terratec DMX 6-Fire being a classic example.

Wow. Now it's definitely time for bed :lol: